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New topic Yuval, you're contradicting yourself.
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Supermen123 said: "That's not exactly what I meant by talking about your project.

Alright, let me summarize the project for you guys:

[1]The group, that is 'Basilmarket's Comic Makers!', is not doing this project as a group project.
[2]I am (as the group leader), the only one who is allowed to "officially" announce we're doing a GROUP project.
[3]NOONE (including me), is allowed to start a group project without talking about it first. I will NEVER start a thread saying we're going to make a project without some discussion.
[4]I will never force you to make a project, if you guys don't like it/don't want to. I may have a little more power as the group leader, but the bottom line is, my thought isn't above yours. Meaning if YOU want to make project A, and I want to make project B, it's 50-50.
[5] I don't want to fight over this, because you seem so determined to make this project, and post it. I am not going to participate because I'm planning to open up a group project discussion again very soon. Anybody is free to join your project, but know that it's not a group project.
[6] I'm not flaming you or anything, I just want to settle this. 70% of the group got extremely confused because of this project.
[7] If the group does like it, then it can be a group project, so you can add your opinions everyone.
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Really, you can't say it's not a group orject if a group of people in the group are doing it.
And you should be the one to talk, telling us to make guides and help you for your website.
And then you say that if you guys want it to be a group project w/e when you know well, that more than half of the positions are taken.
If the group (or at least more then half the active members) joined it, and after what you said, then I'm just using some logic to come to this conclusion.
It's the new group project.

I'm not trying to flame or hurt your feelings, but after all this...

And since Yuval locked the thread, I wanna answer what he said.
Yuval, read the last line on the thread. I didn't mean it in any bad way. And I made sevral new points.
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I already posted something about that on his last response

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I usually don't like to say much but that is hypocritical, misinformed and rude all at the same time.

You start off saying "No, my group is not doing this project because I did not announce it." Well, that is what I got from the first 3 points you made. Then, you go on to say "But hey, I am not above you guys so let us take a vote" First off, not only does that entirely contradict your first statement because in the first statement you said that no one can start a group project officially except you and in the second statement you said that we are all equal... what? How are we all equal if you decide which project sounds more "promising." The person who started this project had enough people to go through with the comic or else s/he would have been halted from the beginning. If you are equal to us then act it and let anyone run their own project because that would be the equal thing to do.. I am not saying that it has to be equal I am just saying if you say it is equal then don't go around saying "This isn't a project because I didn't approve it."

Why the hell do they need your approval anyways? Yes you are the leader but, what does that have to do with creating a comic and organizing it such as they did without your approval. I didn't approve either does that mean it is not official? In fact, I didn't approve of the job project. Oh no that must mean it is not official as well. If you are so equal, how come we have to ask you for approval? Speaking of the last project, and the one before that, where were the votes there? What if someone didn't want to do that project? It seems to me that the projects that you run don't seem to need this vote that you put on this project. It also happens that this is the first project that you did not think up.. Maybe that is why we have to vote.. But that would be "unequal".

The group BasilMarket comic makers is doing this project. A person created a thread that threw out an idea (actually I think it was a blog) and people from the group responded in approval. They are currently WORKING TOGETHER on it. So they are a group...working on a project...So it is kind of a group project that was created in BMCM and a lot of the people in there are working on it...That means it is kind of our project. That also means there was discussion during the thought process of this. The creator made a blog, we discussed if we liked the idea and signed on if we found it met our standards. How much more in depth do we have to go? Is there a guide on how to do this because it would seem too complicated if it was more than that.

Let me talk about your ideas now. Your new group project wasn't approved by the mass through voting... You didn't say "Hey guys, lets vote to see if you want to help me with my website guides." I didn't even hear any discussion beforehand which you clearly stated everyone needed including yourself. I personally believe you just made up these rules because this group of people are creating a comic (god forbid we do that in Basilmarket Comic makers) without your permission/ approval which makes you above us. So either don't preach to us how equal you are to us or act equal and say, "I don't like the idea but maybe the final product will come out better than I expect."

As for my vote, I say no. But whoever created this idea, don't give a crap what I think about this project because this is your project. I am not in it and that is fine with me and you all at the same time.

Reason why: I don't like the idea but that does not mean that it really matters if I do or don't because we all have different points of view. Just because mine is a little bit smaller than yours doesn't mean that I should limit your creativity process because I didn't like it. From what I have seen already, I think I will be proven wrong about saying that it is a bad idea."

Heck, now you're contradicting yourself.
You hate spam, but now you make a thread about something you could've just responded to in the last thread?
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But, yeah, I agree with yous guys. Though I think all of this could've been avoided if Kyo (I believe that's the person who started it) informed Yuval that he was going to start a new project. I'm not trying to say it's Kyo's fault or anything, but yeah.
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I'm a little confused as to the problem...?
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Here you go, Goat. Hopefully it'll shed some light on this.
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Crosswind: sorry, didn't see that.
Ved: I'm not making a useless thread on the forums and then making sevral others about this one thread. So this isn't spam.
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Wow Heck, now THIS thread was plain stupid.

Are you posting it to show the WHOLE GROUP? Why the heck did you firggin post ANOTHER thread if there's already one that's active.. I don't care if it's spam or not, it's just being mean.

You're basically repeating your points in this new thread, if you want to talk about this go to the other thread. There's absolutely NO point for a new thread.

But, as I said:

me said: "I guess you guys are right =(.

I'm sorry.

I'm not really in the mood to fight now, I'm sad about something else anyway.
I really am sorry."
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This just goes to show that chaos rules.

All in all Yuval is confused and we should tell him everything I suppose.
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