Tespia, day 3
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Written by Unthor on April 25 2008
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I didn't get much done today on Tespia because of me not being at home, I did get a few things done. I fought the cake boss. I um, pretty much did nothing else. I couldn't find any more bugs except for the cake boss disconnecting me when I hit it more than 3-4 times.

Screen Shot 1 - Look at all the Maple Weapons, all the Maple Weapons drop from the Cake Boss, even the new ones. There is also a Maple Umbrella. It's a level 30, 45 atk, 14 speed, one hand sword. It's un-trade able too.

Screen Shot 2 - Freaking Mages and Bishops's showing off.

/START RANT
I am going to rant about mages now. They are too freaking powerful. Their ultimates are way too damn strong. A bishop should not be able to KS every class in the game, they are a support class! Mages should not be KS'ing everyone too. It pisses me off the Paladins got screwed on their ultimate. Yes, it is the most powerful skill in the game, but it doesn't kill! And it has a freaking cooldown time of 100 seconds, that is so unfair. Swordman/Pages/WK's/Paladins have been screwed throughout their whole maple career. They need to add a cool down time to all 3 mage classes ultimates or when they use it, it takes all of their MP and 75% of their HP. That would make it so they can't freaking spam the skill on every map KS'ing every single person that is trying to train/kill.

I decided to make a list of who can KS better by job. This is my observation of the game.
Strongest KS'ers to the Weakest
1st Job. - Rogues, Bowman, Mages, then Warriors.
2nd Job. - Assassins, I/L mages, Hunters, X-Bowman, Bandits, F/P mages, Clerics (only better because of teleport), Spearman, Fighters/Pages (Tie)
3rd Job. - Hermit/Rangers (Tie), Sniper, I/L and F/P (Depending on map), DK, CB, Sader, WK, Priest
4th Job. - Bishops, Arch Mages (both kind), Bowmasters, (now this is where is get tough to determine) Nightlords, X-Bowmaster, Shawdowers, Hero, Paladin, DnK

Now WTF? WK's/Paly's are near the end of every list. They are the EASIEST CLASS IN THE GAME TO KS. It might have been fair to make Heaven's Hammer a spammable skill to keep up with the other classes. But noooooo, it can't even kill something. I hate all 4th job mages, they are way too powerful and it doesn't even look fun using that one skill over and over. Come on, have some variety in your attacks. Spam Genesis, Spam Genesis, Spam Genesis... its freaking annoying.

/END RANT

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what did you mean by support class? every class is designed to do the same thing, fight. Your forgetting the most basic of game rules. mages are always weak in the begining and strong as hell in the end. It goes back to final fantasy 1, fighters are about the same amount of strong all the time while other classes go up and down at times. It's a trade off and you picked the safe bet, and KSing is all based on being able to get and kill a monster before other people. When you have to walk up to a monster to bash it over the head it's no wonder you get KS at any level, maple is a 2D game and in a 2D game long distance attacks work very well not only that but there's not run option or anything else.

nah your wrong quiet i agree with unthor ITS A FRICKING SUPPORT CLASS!!!!i mean they were made to heal and dispel and bring back people from the dead end of story/comversation....

Bishops/priest/clerics were designed to support, hence all the beneficial party skills. Giving them a skill to decimate an entire map with only taking half mp is not right. If you haven't noticed, because of this skill, bishops will only party other bishops because the other classes can't keep up with them in killing speed. That is f**ked up. A class that leeches from level 35 (When it gets heal) to level 125 (when it gets a decent level of Genesis) now turns their back on the classes that helped them get to that level. If you don't believe me, listen to how some of the Broan bishops act on this thread. It's ridiculous, all the Broan bishops in this thread need to have that skill stripped from them. Here is my favorite quote from that thread.
Cactar said: "
It's hilarious actually, people bend-over backwards to please priests most of the time, and then we still get it up the ass when it comes to training in 4th. I'm sure that ScrewLUK only trained with other priests when he was in 3rd job, right? Right? Hell, most other classes don't make Haste and HB mules so they won't have to train with other classes. In fact, the only class I know of where members of that class will only exclusively train with members of that class are Priests and Bishops.

For those of you who say "its ur falt 4 wnting only 2 tran wit bishopz":
Yes, because I'm sure DrKs, Shadowers, NLs, BowMasters, CrossbowMasters, Arch I/L Mages, Arch F/P Mages, Heros or Paladins have a party skill that boosts everyone's EXP! Oh wait, that's right! They don't! It's totally our fault for wanting the best party skill in the game so we don't waste millions more than we already do. Really.

To sum it up:

Bishops have ALWAYS been whiny, and bitchy about people being pissed at them for trying to make every other class in the game THEIR slaves. When you're lower leveled, you want everyone to leech you up to 120. When you're 120, you're so full of yourself thanks to the ability to decimate an entire map of high level monsters as well as provide yourself with an increased EXP rate, that you ignore other classes that did help you and just run off with other people leeched up to 120.

Serious question for you: Can you name ONE other class that has the option of leeching up to 120 WITHOUT relying on friends and/or "other" gaming methods?

As a final note (which I'm sure most people won't read): This only applies to bishops who refuse to train with anyone other than bishops. If you aren't one of these people, then ignore this whole rant. It does, however, apply to you if you think like the TC does.
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He sums up everything I am thinking about the class.
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they were not designed to support, those skills are just as you quoted from this other guy "to leech there way up to 120" you forget I think how much it sucks to not have a character around that heals you, most people that train with them just expect them to heal and be perfect or something, like it doesn't cost them anything to fight or like healing isn't any work. The cleric classes "pay" for the exp they get while training with the use of there skill, and they suffer loads too from bad parties, angry people, mean people, and the fact that they can not train at the max exp rate with out being in a party. It's no wonder that when given the opportunity to NOT train with someone they take it. You yourself have even admitted at times that partying is no fun unless it's with a friend. But where I think your very wrong is in the fact that you THINK THEY OWE other classes. maybe YOU owe all your leveling to the clerics and priest that trained with you not the other way around!

Jesse....its how life is...

We made clerics and mages feel like shye

Now they make us feel like shyte =)

What goes around comes around....
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no no no you dont make mages feel like shyt we just make clerics AND HONESTLY QUIET HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU ACTUALLY USED A CLERIC TO TRAIN I MEAN HONESTLY WE CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT EM!!!!

They do owe the other classes. I can guarantee that any priest over level 120 used DK's and other classes to get to that level and not the other way around. Priest solely leech until level 120. All their skills are designed to help a party. Heal, Holy Symbol, Bless and Resurrection in 4th. No other class in the game was designed to help a party like a priest was. The were made to where they didn't have to kill, but got good exp. Now that they have this ultimate skill, they turn their backs on all the classes that helped them get to that level and only train with other priest.
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You seem to be forgetting that our leader and my lil sister are cleric, remember? I've trained with her and I've seen what some mean partys have done to her, and I know how she trained. Yes you can train with out someone healing you but it rocks to have them around. There class was not made to not kill it's just a basic part of a preist/cleric job in any game they can't kill but they can heal it's a trade off. Again they don't owe anyone anything and maybe if you are nicer to them while they level up like our leader, when they get the ultimate skill they will let you leech!

I say fuuck it all....


And just live life how it is.........
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I have no problems with Mel. It's the people that made the character because of the skill Genesis. Your sister made a cleric before 4th job were announced. I'm sure she made the character to help people, which I believe what that class was made for. Them having that skill is not right. It's too powerful, it doesn't fit the structure of the class, and the skill causes priest to abandon the ones that helped them get to a high level. I know Priest/Clerics do have it rough, but they have the upper hand. A PRIEST NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO SAY NO. If a DK is being an ass, don't party him. That DK will eventually learn to party nice. I just want that skill to be reduced in power to where it would still help them to train solo, but not be too powerful to where they abandon partying with any class except a priest that has the same skill.

P.S. Mel is actually one of the best priest I have trained with. There are some times that I get irritated with her, but I don't get pissed. When she trains with me, it's hell for her. It's boring for her to follow me around healing and using other buffs, that is why I let her loot everything. The only time I won't is if I tell her I am looking for a specific drop. I'll let her take everything but that one drop.
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It doesn't make sence to have one job that's just for people who want to spend there maple time "helping" people, as a reward for working hard and never really having a skills that could kill clerics have ONE just ONE cool skill at the end of the game where you have to train for years to get it. I'm saying that to take that skill away from them would be wrong and that the classes are balanced the way they are. I think your just arguging your point for the hell of it, cause you don't like any other class expecaly one like cleric that "leeches" that is "designed to help people", really this is the only skill they have going for them and every one plays the class they have for the skill they will get latter in the game! all the little noob clerics in the entire game are looking forward to the day they get this kick butt skill. The same way that you are looking forward to your skills.

guys guys guys... u cant do anything......nexon doesn't care =)
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